Vivanista Founder, Layne Gray sat down with the San Francisco Opera Ball Co-Chairs, Charlot Malin and Mary Poland, for a lively chat about the upcoming Gala, Opera education in schools and what it’s like co-chairing a major event.

Click on the podcast below to listen to how these two powerhouse gals have taken on a long-standing tradition and turning it on its head to be fresh, current and oh-so-Egyptian.